Comments on: 6 Causes of Spongy Brakes (or Soft Brake Pedal) https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/ Car Maintenance, General Repair, Troubleshooting, and Everything Car Related Sat, 05 Nov 2022 12:06:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.1.1 By: Mark https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1278265 Sat, 05 Nov 2022 12:06:32 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1278265 In reply to Sean.

Check your master. There is a residual check valve that keeps static pressure on your rear brakes, it keeps a static pressure on the wheel cylinder to allow front disc and rear drum brakes to come at the same time by not having to overcome the rear spring pressure. No static pressure allows rear cylinders to collapse allowing air to seep in.

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By: Sean https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1275067 Mon, 17 Oct 2022 14:12:14 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1275067 In reply to Sam.

Is there a chance you could’ve gotten air in the ABS lines? It might be a good idea to take the car to a shop to have them bleed the entire system (ABS included). Bleeding ABS requires a special tool that puts the ABS system in a bleed state. This is not possible for a home mechanic without a professional scan tool.

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By: Sam https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1274948 Sun, 16 Oct 2022 23:55:35 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1274948 Toyota Camry 2005 with ABS. Brake pedal is too soft and goes to floor. My state inspection failed due to this. Tested master cylinder on bench and in the car, its working perfectly. Flushed and bleed the brake fluid from all 4 wheels, no cure. Noticed an interesting thing, I pinched driver side front brake hose, which brings the pedal to normal (ie not spongy). I thought the brake caliper has some issue, the piston was seized, so I serviced the brake caliper, and put it back, bleed the air and un-pinched the line. The spongy brake returned. Pinching passenger front side hose also brings the pedal to solid. The brake hoses appears to be good.
I haven’t touched the ABS module, May be its faulty, or needs bleeding, but I don’t want to get that route just yet. Thoughts anyone?

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By: Sean https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1269258 Mon, 19 Sep 2022 13:59:53 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1269258 In reply to Jack.

I wonder if you have a bad brake hose that is preventing fluid from returning back up toward the master cylinder. That could potentially make it so the ABS can’t do its job, and one or more calipers would just lock as you’ve described.

Otherwise, I’m not really sure what’s going on here. What was the initial problem you were trying to solve by replacing the brake booster?

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By: Jack https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1268807 Sat, 17 Sep 2022 18:12:33 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1268807 2010 Ford edge, changed brake booster. After changing bled the brakes no pedal no pressure. Replaced master cylinder, had brakes but after a few minutes front brakes locked up. Replaced both again with new master and reman booster and back to no pedal. Bled a qt of fluid through and didn’t do anything to the calipers and didn’t have brake problems before changing just felt the pedal sticking when coming back up causing brake lights to stay on.

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By: Adam https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1257315 Mon, 08 Aug 2022 17:41:59 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1257315 It’s been a while since I wrote this article but I think what I was trying to get at is a hydro-brake booster.

However, looking back I should’ve provided a little more clarification because it is correct that a traditional vacuum brake booster can’t lead to spongy brakes and the current explanation isn’t all that clear on it.

Hydro-brake boosters can suffer from two problems that an amateur could diagnose as spongy brakes, although a professional mechanic would likely only diagnose one of the conditions as “spongy” and it’s typically pretty easy to rectify.

First, there can be air in the system. This is more common after replacing any components in the power steering system – including the hydro-brake booster itself. Compared to bleeding brakes getting the air out of the power steering system is generally pretty easy, even if it can be a bit more time-consuming.

Second, there could be a leak in the hydro brake booster. This isn’t going to lead to true “spongy” brakes, but it will lead to a drop in brake pressure as you hit the pedal, especially if you hold the pedal down. I think this is more what I was trying to get at without diving too far into the nitty gritty details of each system. An amateur could very easily mistake this for spongy brakes.

There’s no doubt that if your vehicle has spongy brakes, 99.9 percent of the time it’s because there’s air in the system. Even every other “cause” I listed simply introduces air into the system one way or another – which creates the spongy brakes.

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By: Bryan Miller https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1256891 Sun, 07 Aug 2022 05:24:44 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1256891 It is physically impossible for a faulty brake booster to cause a spongy pedal. When the booster first begins to fail, it’s ability assist in braking begins to degrade.

When the booster is not providing enough assist the pedal will actually start to feel much harder than before because with less boost the same pedal pressure produces less pedal travel.

I am a mechanic and can’t think of a scenario where it could cause a spongy pedal. If anyone could enlighten me, please do so because I would hate to be wrong and not know it.

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By: Sean https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1245920 Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:30:37 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1245920 In reply to jerrel effler.

I guess the next thing I would check would be the rubber brake hoses. Make sure none of them are swelling or doing anything strange when you press on the brakes.

I would also double check that the brakes were bled properly and that there is no air in the lines, especially if you have ABS. Air can get trapped inside the ABS module and often requires a professional to properly bleed.

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By: jerrel effler https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1244809 Thu, 23 Jun 2022 22:23:21 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1244809 2010 mercury milan. has new brake pads, brakes were bled, no visible leaks.
what could be the problem? brake pedal goes nearly to floor, little braking action

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By: Sean https://cartreatments.com/spongy-brakes/comment-page-1/#comment-1216840 Mon, 28 Mar 2022 15:51:36 +0000 http://cartreatments.com/?p=506509#comment-1216840 In reply to Rick.

It’s possible. That’d be high on the list of things I’d try next.

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